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Posted - 2008.07.08 11:59:00 -
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 Originally by: Lord WarATron
Originally by: Ramius Decimus
Edited by: Ramius Decimus on 06/07/2008 07:42:36
My god, does no one read the ship's description? Black Ops aren't designed for combat. Why would they be if there are already viable combat battleships available?
Originally by: Widow Description
Role: Black Ops
Black Ops battleships are designed for infiltration and espionage behind enemy lines. With the use of a short-range jump drive and a portal generator, they are capable of making a special type of jump portal usable only by covert ops vessels. This enables them to stealthily plant reconnaissance and espionage forces in enemy territory. For the final word in clandestine maneuvers, look no further.
That's right, it's primary role is espionage. For those unfamiliar with that term, it means spying. Gathering information. This ship is pretty good for that role, although has fuel capacity restrictions and the shitty fact you can't warp while cloaked with it make a slightly more risky ship to fly (considering the pricetag), however is ideal for team functions. If you can bypass gates you surely know are camped with a tight inty screen (which could no doubt bump a cov ops frig), than it serves it's purpose of getting comrades in to nose around.
Black Ops battleships serve a purpose, however you need to be real flexible in it's design to make it effective in that role. One way or another, it's a support ship (not a frontliner). It's concept is tailored to the bigger picture.
Likewise, there's no way I could deny it needs a little work. As long as we don't give up on it, CCP should make improvements on it (like cov ops cloak). We just gotta keep pushing. Afterall, the customer is always right...  
The role of a Espionage BS is obsolete. A Cov Ops frig is far superior and can also warp cloaked, thus be able to set up warpin sports for driveby's on weak sections of bigger forces etc, and it can act as a scout moving ahead.
Go on, tell us how we should fly a redeemer. Tell us what James Bond style work it is meant to do? The problem with black ops is the fundamental role issue. Its like assault frigs - Obsolete in today's pvp enviroment.
Solution starts with a role. If you want a Espionage BS, then tell us how i should operate first and its role. Then people can worry about its stats/slots etc.
You're still pushing this line? I've given you an example of their role before. Why dont you ever actually acknowledge that? Before you start, no, I dont agree with the guy above that they're into "espionage". Thats obviously a terrible role for a slow bs that cant warp cloaked.
The role is to do DAMAGE in a cloaker-only gang, and use its jump drive and portal to put that dps and gang into places it otherwise could not get, adding the element of surprise. There is no other ship or class of ship that can accomplish this.
Yes, as I have said, before, they are gimped in this role and need a boost to the key points of this - ability to operate with a cloak fitted (scan res and speed) and ability to use the jumpportal (fuel bay, fuel use, range). They have quite a good DPS already, actually.
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